Since Jesus knew his actions would lead to his death it was a form of suicide - so why is suicide a sin?

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Gods so called "sacrifice" of Jesus is technically murder, and i'm pretty sure that's a sin.

The {so called} suicide that you ask about, is a act of love. And in my understanding it was not a suicide, it was a {SACRIFICE} of Gods love for us. In the Bible God tells us how much He LOVES us by giving His Son Jesus Christ who is without sin, to die for our sin's. You can fine this in the book of John Ch: 3 & V-16. And just to let you know what Great Love is. Look in the Holy Bible in the book of John Ch: 15 & V's -12 & 13. And I Quote- "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." Unquote.... I hope this helps you to see that there are many types of death. One is a death called suicide, & I don't believe its the way to go. And another type of death is called {sacrifice}. And Jesus died as a {sacrifice} of Gods LOVE for all of us. And to give us a new life as Christians. All we need to do is to ask Jesus to come into our lives, forgive us of our sin's & show us how to LOVE one another. Love Ya All.....M.C.S.

In Catholic teaching, Jesus' death isn't considered suicide, any more than a soldier marches who toward his death in an attempt to do something brave and good.

If it's assumed that Jesus knew his actions would gain the attention of the Jewish hierarchy and the Romans, leading most likely to trial and execution, it only means he knew the inevitable outcome of his struggle to teach unorthodox views and help others. Suicide is the reckless waste of life and is considered a selfish act by some because a person who commits suicide literally destroys the gift of life given to him. But to lay down one's life for a morally good cause is considered a sacrifice because that person has used his or her life to the best of his or her abilities and with good intent, even if the price is death.

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To commit suicide is to take ones own life. Christs death was an atoning sacrifice and was designed to ransom men from the affects of the fall of Adam in that both spiritual and temporal death are conquered.

If there had been no atonement, temporal death would have remained forever, and there would have been no resurrection. The body would have remained in the grave and the spirit would have stayed in what is called the spirit prison.

Robert

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Being killed is not the same as killing yourself. Is someone who over eats, resulting in health problems, dies of a heart attack, commiting suicide?

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the definition of suicide is: 1. the intentional taking of one's own life. 2. the act or an instance of taking one's own life voluntarily and intentionally 3. a person who kills himself intentionally

the word intentionally means knowingly placing yourself in the hands of death. Jesus knew his actions would result to committing suicide. and like the above, over eating resulting in death is a slow suicide. you KNOW overeating would eventually lead to death, Jesus KNEW he would die if he took a stand for something he believed in and yet went along for it. the intention doesn't make the difference because in the end he did in fact die. same thing goes for those who believe so strongly in their faith that they are willing to die for it. those are all a form of suicide. whether the government sees it as a moral act of suicide is irrelevant. the government places emphasis on attempted suicide hence ignoring the reason behind it. the act of committing suicide isn't illegal, attempting to is. how can you be punished for succeeding in killing yourself if you wont be able to live through the charges. if you attempt suicide and succeed, then it is not illegal, if you attempt suicide and fail, only then is it illegal. this means you are being imprisoned and punished for something you failed to do that wasn't even illegal in the first place. can you think of another law that shows failure as a punishment, but success in suicide not?

i don think this answers the question but it does make you think about how moral teachings can be sought out to be a sin. how, if suicide for a moral cause was OK and not illegal then everyone could say they attempted suicide for a moral and OK reason. this would make other problems arise. you could state you stole for a moral reason like to help a dying family, but it is still illegal in the governments eyes. how is the reason for suicide any different.

Jesus believes He's the Prophesied Messiah

So suicide is not in his thought. And he can free his people from the Romans with just two swords. And when he realized he was not the Messiah, on the cross he uttered ; "My God, my god, why hath thou forsaken me."

Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." 22:37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. 22:38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

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The death of Jesus represents the change that occurs when the Christ consciousness is reached and when we reach that point in our progression it is referred to through language of mind as the second coming of Christ. There were many opportunities to kill Jesus earlier. His words while on the cross actually mean 'for this I was spared". The scenario was necessary to present the proper picture for us. Sin is a mistake with no learning from it so that it is repeated. Suicide is the refusal to do any more learning. When this occurs, the soul or subconscious mind makes the decision that it is no longer productive to stay in the physical. The decision when we come in or leave is made subconsciously.

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What was the character of his death?

Homicide. "Jesus of Nazareth, a man ... ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain" (Acts ii, 22, 23).

Regicide. "The Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David" (Luke i, 32). "This is the King of the Jews" (xxiii, 38). "There they crucified him" (33).

Deicide. "The Word [Christ] was God" (John i, 1). "I and my Father are one" (x, 30). "They crucified him" (xix, 18).

Suicide: "I [Christ] lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself" (John x, 17, 18).

Common Definition of Suicide

1. The act or instance of killing oneself intentionally. 2. A person who kills himself intentionally. These Dictionary definitions show the very assumption behind the question to be flawed as Suicide is by definition self-inflicted.

Thus, if we can demonstrate that Jesus drove the nails into himself, and tied himself up while nailed or else he tied himself up and then drove in the nails and in the state of being so impaled he then raised the cross with himself on it into the hole which he had dug and fixed it fast all while the soldiers watched - if this can be demonstrated to have happened then we can all agree that Jesus committed some kind of Suicide.

He Laid Down His Life

In the verse quoted above we have a definitive statement of what actually came to pass. Jesus laid down his life in order to take it again when he rose victorious over death. A total and stark contrast with Judas the betrayer who did commit suicide in despair at his own error and foolish selfishness. Jesus who sacrificed himself willingly for others took his human life back again because death could not hold him.

Iam not too sure that Jesus knew at first that his actions would lead to his death as far as I know he was being guided along by God and did not know for sure what the outcome would be until nearer to the end of his life anyway Iam sure that God would have not have revealed anything to anyone until the time was right...Jesus was carrying out God's plan and that plan is perfect and cannot be found as faulty at all and it is also written in the scriptures "that it is not for man to understand God" so I see it as God's business and therefore not mine!!!

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Suicide is self-murder, but Jesus did not kill Himself, so it was not suicide. It may have been suicidal, but it was not suicide:( that is a sin, and Christ was sinless). The thing that I am surprised that no-one has mentioned is that all this was prophesied all through the Bible before Christ was even born - His birth, life events, death, and resurrection. Where? Go right back to the very start where Adam and Eve sinned in the Garden of Eden :

As the King James version (above) may be unclear, I have also put The Modern King James Version with who is what in brackets to make it easier to understand:

If you want to go on from here, go to "Google" and type in 'Gen 3:15 +prophecy' or whatever, and follow it from there, and try the sites below for answers :

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Suicide is when you effect the taking your own life, such as by swallowing poison, shooting yourself or blowing yourself up, and is usually done for selfish reason. In contrast is a person who risks his life for others in a way that likely will lead to death, but which death depends upon the voluntary evil responses of souls who are accountable for their actions.

The Lord Jesus did not kill Himself, nor act selfishly, but unselfishly did and said things that evil men could not tolerate, and thus they sought to attribute his works to an evil source and to destroy Him (cf. Mt. 12). Likewise, souls who hate the light today (cf. jn. 3:19-21) seek to impugn His holy character, to "destroy" Him whose holiness and authority challenges them.

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